the term you’re looking for is blind
this feature should be called simply “blind group” if it’s along side or “blind copies” if it’s a toggle option within groups.
both could be offered, redundant settings is perfectly fine.
but before you proceed with this, please keep reading…
no to broadcast!
broadcast is not intrinsically related to hiding anything. imho it’s rather a terrible name for this feature.
the nature of broadcasting is in its name: casting over a broad area. there’s nothing intrinsically related with hiding recipients or privacy. and, as pointed out, doing it digitally even means there’s no issue in broadcasting the recipients list in the broadcast itself (there’s technically no digital way to broadcast like a radio).
on a side note…
personally, i love telegram idea of channels versus groups in general… and the points made were all great, @r10s and @Hocuri …
but there are many issues even with it. for instance, they added an option to hide the owners and admins by default. so now new channels are created, people get invited, but there’s nobody to blame. i’m in no way a personal target of abusers in general, still i already got abused by this once and i can see how easy it is to abuse it. the option was to protect admins of big channels (namely themselves) from flooding, and it works for them while they can hide their identity.
i don’t want to hide mine. i rather have a public identity and a private one. much easier.
getting a new email is easy, a new phone is also easy but much harder than an email. almost nobody have 2 phone numbers… telegram is based on phone numbers for this very reason. it’s a great layer o protection against a huge amount of abuse on itself… perhaps that’s a big reason why they get lost in their hiding feature…
i have zero idea on how delta chat does it, but i do know there are many features in place to prevent abuse as well, more than any email client. and it’s happily not based on freaking phone numbers!
delta can do much better than telegram and the rest, thanks to this smart choice.
yes to broadcast!
how about a libre friendly broadcast version?
the “broadcast group” would:
- use bcc to hide the recipients only to prevent misuse of reply all.
- have an opt-in option to send along the whole list on a file or something. including who’s managing the broadcast so that “viewers” can get in touch (in case there’s more than 1 admin).
- there’s a huge warning explaining why this isn’t on by default and a confirmation box before turning it on for a new group.
- of course the ux would show the list nicely, for every group member.
- send an easy “unsubscribe” link at the bottom that will quickly and magically remove the user from the group, as soon as it hits the inbox.
- make an extra option for users to get removed only from the recipients list.
- perhaps even a global setting “hide me from all lists”, which might be better to be left of by default.
- the first email (or perhaps the first few emails within an hour or so) will not send the list by default.
- add an option to easily comment on each broadcasted item over on a linked group.
- certainly need a few more features, but…
… in this direction we can get the best of all worlds, don’t you think?
most people who do broadcast are really just trying to organize data and make it interesting.
if i’m in a broadcast group, i want to know which of my friends are there. that makes it much more interesting. so i can even create a group with my friends only to talk about broadcasted items.
hiding email identities, in the other hand, is only really useful as prevention abuse and should be handled by who’s getting abused, and nobody else.