I would like if I verified contact it would be more visible in the Chat view.
E.g. a checkmark, the name written in green, a green border around the contact picture or what ever.
Actual behavior
There is no hint in the chat view if I veryfied this contact
first: please don’t forget to specify which app you are using, android or desktop.
A normal chat with a contact remains opportunistic. Only if you create a verified group with one or more contacts then the chat is marked with a verified blue tick mark. So far, a default 1:1 chat view can not be “upgraded” to verified or something like that.
I am just a dummy and never used the verified contact/group feature, but… isn’t the same to just create a 2 members verified group??? that works already, produce the desired effect and avoids the issue @r10s talked about (just thinking loud here)
@webratte yes, I understand you, you had verified a contact, but in the normal chat, you could see a “setup changed” message, and that could be the man in the middle and you can keep talking after that, as far as I heard if you create a 2 members verified group, this will not happen, since verified groups don’t work if one of the members isn’t verified (after a key change the verified contact is not verified anymore)
so if you create this group you can be sure every message you send is “save”
@adbenitez
Sorry, it seems you misunderstood me
I will try it again.
It’s possible to verify a contact by scanning the QR-Code
After this, the contact is marked as “verified” in the Contact view (Tap on the name in the chat view)
That means I know, the key is the correct key of my contact. Not a key of a “man in the middle”.
And now I would like to see this also in the chat view as I described in the first post of this thread.
Of course, this is not a marker for a “verified chat”. It only shows me, I have the correct (verified) key.
And this is important.
And if the key will be changed of course now it should be (as you described) the “setup changed” message appear and the contact now should be marked as “not verified”.
yes, making it more clear at any time if the user is verified may be useful, but still you may be focused on typing and ignore the change, don’t know, I still think the verified group is a safer option if you really want to have a secure channel, this way you don’t have to check every time if the contact is still verified, or that you pressed the sent button just some milliseconds after the contact becomes unverified, etc
maybe the problem is a bit that the same verified-icon is used for two different purposes - verified contacts and verified chats.
we could use two different icons, however, this might be even more confusing - having a verified-contact-icon in 1:1 chats and a verfied-chat icon in verfied-groups. and theoretically both icons in a group with only one contact. at a first glance, i would not like that
i think the blue-checkmark should guarantee some kind of extra-verification - and this would be mitigated if we show a similar icon where no verification-guarantee can be given.
as a workaround - if you tap on the title bar in an 1:1 chat, there is the text “verified contact” shown.
maybe we should drop the usage of the verified-icon for contacts completely - there is already the idea to show the text “verified by NAME” in the contact lists, maybe this is sufficient. the icon would only be used for a verified channel then.
Still I would like a marker in the titlebar of the open chat.
Only a small green dot beside the name or (as I said before) a thin green border around the contact picture.
Or like in Threema: 3 green dots (traffic light system)
As this is DC this could be three triangles or prisms
(someone has done a suggestion for a new DC icon using such a shape)
ddd
4 states “possible/thinkable”:
ddd (no color): not any message sent yet ddd (1 d red): not encrypted (normal) ddd (2 d yellow): encrypted ddd (3 d green) : encrypted + verified
Much better than the simply uncolored word “Verified Contact” (Android),
in the profile. Write it at least in blue.
Already better is the blue tick(iOS) in the profile.
Already both have a a blue tick under add new contact.
Would be really helpful or rather mandatory
that it is shown in title bar of the current chat (and maybe even in the chat/contact list)
(for the reason of visibility/hint/reminder) AND
that the status changes when something has changed.