New feature: Group Types

This is a very nice idea! +1

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Blind Group is a bit like the broadcast functionality in WhatsApp, maybe we can add the word broadcast somewhere in the name or description to help people coming from WA to understand it.

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Hi Schiminieee :slight_smile:
I don’t want to force names with this proposal, what I am proposing is the functionality, I used that names just to name them somehow to talk about it, I am ok with whichever name the developers decide for this.

Also I had never used WhatsApp, didn’t knew that info, thanks for your comment.

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You mean something like this :wink:

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webratte I have updated the post to point to your ‘Broadcast messages’ post in the ‘Blind groups’ section, to keep things tidy :slight_smile:

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I don’t see a way to implement the “Blind Group” type so an alternative could be a “Channel” group type, in the email the “To” header is set to the channel owner and the rest of the channel members are set in BCC, the channel owner is the only one who knows the group members and the only who can write in this group, users can only leave the channel, which will be shown as a channel in delta and shouldn’t let users to send anything, the bottom bar should be hidden

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Me gusta esta idea servirían para trabajos de negocio y mensages publicitarios y no creo que sea difícil de realizarlo, seria similar al mensage de difusión de WhatsApp.

Looking for similar feature. Any update yet? Or you found any workaround?

Sounds like mail merge.

Whyyy hide something when you can answer through mail client? That’s awkward! )

you could answer to the channel admin but you will never know the real channel member list

the same way you could reply in a group you left, but delta shouldn’t allow it if isn’t supposed to happen

Yeah, and that what I call awkward. You have an app that doesn’t allow you to do a thing that neighbor app do easily.

Or do you propose that DC of other participants will block your email from them? It would be ridiculous since people who are in the thread with MUA will continue with it leaving DC users behind.

Is this still about Blind Groups?, then:

I think there are two things we currently understand under that term lets split it up again:

Broadcast: like in whatsapp broadcast is a virtual chat that automates sending Direct messages to multiple persons.

Blind Group/Channel: like telegram channels, a newsletter nobody can reply to as its not really a group, it’s rather a feed. like you wont answer to a noreply@email.address.

seems that you don’t get it, how would people “talk and leave you behind” when all they see is an email from you, they don’t see other members because they are sent in BCC header

Maybe some dumb questions from my side, but if I was a member of a Blind Group/Channel which I am not aware of, how could I send a personal message to the admin of this group? Would I still have the possibility to contact the admin directly, without sending the message to the other members of this group?

Yeah, don’t like too much of whistles and bells. For me it’s hard to grasp.

I dream of solid email messenger that people doesn’t receive with phrases like: please stop sending me this awful kind of emails.

OK, but you cannot prevent messages to be sent and delivered to you in a classic mailer either, unless you do something against. You can block the contact such messages are sent from. Or you can create a server rule that denies messages with a certain attribute used to identify a group message in Delta Chat.

Gerry, you’re totally right, I was just speaking in general.

There are problems like absence of context in messages which
irritates general correspondents as hell, and it feels like it’s
being this way for years. But discussion is going about blind
groups, channels, broadcasting
. Of course, it’s nice to have
mail-list and newsletter features in Delta; especially in a
consistent way with these already lives in my mailbox.

But I just feel like it will lead us from a high quality but
limited product that can do few things well and strive for general
public acceptance, to a geek’s toy which can do everything you
want if you’re nerdy enough to use it.
That’s why I’m
overreacting a bit. Sorry about that.

Never mind, we all want to be heard. I do not know if you have been using other messengers than Delta Chat, but my personal impression is that a messenger must be a “geek toy” nowadays to be attractive, especially to younger generations of people. The developers are working very hard to cope with some challenges our classic mail system “provides” to them. They basically have to find ways around limitations, while other products often rely on a newly created technical basement that is more flexible. But - and that is a huge advantage to me - Delta Chat is a good example of “backward compatibility”. It is a tool that can be used to communicate with anyone who owns a mail address, messages do not even have to be encrypted.

AFAIK, this has been discussed already, and I think we are not that far away to have this feature in a future version of Delta Chat, but that is something the developers certainly know much better than I do.

Much more important to me is the stability of Delta Chat, and I have been able to observe continuing progress towards that goal. (You can see what is going on in the respective Github repositories, how many huge and tiny improvements were made, and how enthusiastic the development team is. I have never known a team of a higher commitment than this one.)

But I have to admit that Delta Chat is not for everyone. After all, it is a messenger, not a classic mailer. You may want to have some features in Delta Chat which you are used to have in a MUA. The good news is that there are ways to use both kinds of these apps together, just as you like.

This forum section is the right place to be heard when talking about (new) features, considering that users can be so much different. The more people demand something specific, the “louder a voice” can become to enhance Delta Chat the way it should be.

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